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Oh if it were only that simple? Alien Agendas? I am more inclined to ask about Human Agendas? We will never be fully aware of what is really going on because humanity is greedy, power crazed and bloody complicated. Our own psychologies make no sense most of the time. Everybody's motivations are different and those motivations are grown from personal experience, which takes on many forms. In essence - who's view of reality do we run with? Yours? Mine? Throw aliens and Time Travel into the mix and what do we have? Endless possibilities, a myriad of outcomes, a thousand and one realities and the man on the street just doesn't have a say, how ever hard we might wish for it and run our little blog pieces and publish our books on the subjects with the 'evidence' we think we have gathered in truth and integrity. At the end of the day, I think we (humanity AND the aliens) are all lost to chance, circumstance, cause and effect which can be skewed by the slightest ripple. Sure I'll sign your petition, who knows, it may make a difference, but who in the end is going to make the big changes that are needed to set humanity and it's place in the grand scheme of things on the right path? You? Me? The government? Which government? What leader/s has the power to change the hearts and minds of every living man, woman and child on the planet? And if there are Alien intelligences out there who are interfering with our already fragile time-line/s who would we trust? How on Earth, or not, would we know anything about an alien psychology, philosophy, i.e their motivations and agendas? Do they tell the truth? Do they lie? Do they manipulate other species for their own ends? I don't know do you? How could you know. Whatever we think we might know is just another narrative, a story, a possibility. so how can we ever be sure that trusting an alien intelligence is the right thing to do? Especially considering that most people on the planet don't even trust their own government or their own neighbours come to that! I suppose it comes down to that very dubious state of being that can be summed up in one of two words - trust and faith - two very dangerous words!

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Wow, you are completely insane.

I recently noted the above comments regarding UFO interference with ICBM sites at Malmstrom AFB in March 1967, and decided to correct a few misconceptions that the authors of the associated bits – in tandem with Robert Salas and Robert Hastings – seem to be so obsessed with. This apparently stems, for the most part, from their refusal to accept the claims of the only two people who were actually present at Echo Flight: Eric D. Carlson, the commander of Echo Flight, and Walt Figel, his deputy commander. Both men have repeatedly asserted that UFOs were not involved with those events in 1967. You are welcome to believe whatever you like, but Robert Salas, author of "Faded Giant", and Robert Hastings, author of "UFOs and Nukes" have been repeatedly accused of lying about and/or embellishing details of these incidents by those military veterans who served their nation well during the hottest period of the Vietnam War and the coldest stretch of the Cold War. The fact that there is not even one single condition of evidence to prove the claims these men have addressed is a point that very few of you have shown any willingness to consider.

If you wish to know exactly what happened in 1967, and why the missiles at Echo Flight actually failed, and why the Oscar Flight claims are so pointlessly irresponsible, I encourage you to examine (without any cost, a deal Hastings and Salas have been unwilling to match) the following narratives:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26641522/Americans-Credulous-by-James-Carlson

http://www.scribd.com/doc/42303580/Echo-Flights-of-Fantasy-Anatomy-of-a-UFO-Hoax-by-James-Carlson [this one is an examination of the issues for those unfamiliar with the case]

http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2011/08/strategic-editing/

http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2012/04/how-to-demand-redress-by-shooting-yourself-in-the-foot/

http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2012/10/the-aggressive-pursuit-of-ignorance/

I would also recommend that you examine the numerous interviews and articles at the Reality Uncovered website: http://www.realityuncovered.net/. Many of the articles discuss the events at Echo Flight and Oscar Flight in March 1967, and include interviews with both the commander and the deputy commander at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967. To this day, Robert Salas insists that both men confirm his claims of UFO interference, which both men deny strongly. Robert Hastings refuses entirely to discuss these matters in detail or to answer any questions regarding the testimonies of these two men, preferring instead to attack the integrity and credibility of those publically raising such issues. He refuses to offer anything substantial in the way of evidence, and fails entirely to explain the details of his claims or to answer any of the valid questions raised by his insistence. What he has done is rely on the craven use of blatant lies and baseless insults in regard to his critics without once managing to refute or even discuss their criticisms. Even worse, he has neglected to defend his own theories against numerous accusations of massive fraud and profiteering on a scale UFO proponent communities have only rarely been subjected to.

A lot information regarding these alleged "UFO" incidents can be found at the Reality Uncovered forum, in particular the Echo Flight Incident thread at http://www.realityuncovered.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1688. Every single detail, digression, discussion or subject of argument asserted by both of these dishonest and irresponsible men has been explained and discussed in great detail in the documents and on the websites you've been directed to. Not one question has been left unanswered, a statement that neither Hastings nor Salas can honestly affirm. Both men, in fact, are proven liars who have created fiction and called it fact, something anyone willing to actually do the research can determine very readily for himself, as the events they've wrapped their pathetic clams around – contrary to their prior assertions – have been completely declassified since before 1980.

Tim Hebert, an ex-USAF missileer himself, has also written some very enlightening articles regarding the Echo Flight case on his blog at http://timhebert2.blogspot.com/. You should probably take the time to read them, as the information they contain are important to those wanting to know the truth. He has written an especially enlightening series of articles on Robert Salas' claims in regard to Oscar Flight that can be read at http://timhebert3.blogspot.com/. The fact that he is an ex-missileer himself gives his work an authority that those without such a background should take seriously. He has served his nation with far more responsibility than that mustered by Robert Salas, and he did so for longer than the USAF required for the education he received, an insistent point of fact that Salas is unable to equal, since he left the Air Force for a civilian career as

civilian career as soon as he met the lowest standards of his expectedf duty. While there is no moral assessment implied in this discussion, it is nonetheless hard not to recognize and compare the value that each man has placed on their duty. Robert Salas left the USAF as soon as he could legally do so, took his education and began a new career, while Tim Hebert continued to serve his nation, and learned much more in regard to those same missile systems that Salas has attempted to portray himself as having some expertise with. In addition, the fact remains that Robert salas failed to mention "UFO" is association with ANYTHING that may or may not have occurred at Malmstrom AFB for 30-years, and did so only after two very important asociated events took place: the complete declassification of the Echo Flight incident, and the attempts of an ignorant few to link that incident with a UFO sighting, report and investigation that never occurred. The fact that Salas has been unable to name even a single eye-witness to the UFO he has invented from nothing seems to have escaped the notice of those exhibiting the will to believe such incandescent crap.

Dr. David Clarke, for many years an accepted expert regarding the British military forces' investigations of the UFO phenomenon, has also discussed the Echo Flight case in the context of the "UFO and Nukes" connection asserted by Robert Hastings and Robert Salas. You can and should read his article on the subject at http://drdavidclarke.blogspot.com/2010/11/flat-earth-nukes.html.

The folk tales currently being spread by Hastings and Salas like so much infectious manure have not merely been dismissed as one possible interpretation of their claims; they have been repeatedly dismantled and shredded – proven as lies by witness testimony and documented evidence that many UFO proponents wish to ignore, since they continue to show themselves incapable of otherwise explaining in the context of a real flying saucer. There is no doubt whatsoever that Salas with the assistance of Hastings has created this UFO case outright. There were no actual UFOs involved – it is a lie and nothing more. Witnesses that both men have presented to the public have actually come forward to dispute the claims these men have made. They insist that their statements were taken out of context and distorted purposely in order to suggest the presence of UFOs where no such presence could otherwise be established. Salas and Hastings have perpetrated a UFO hoax of the worst sort, and have attempted to destroy the reputations and career service of better men than themselves.

The commander of Echo Flight on March 16, 1967, CAPT (Ret.) Eric D. Carlson, has released the following very definitive statement:

"Let me start by stating that, as best as I can recall, my only contact with Salas and Hastings has been on the phone. I did tell Salas that he could release my name to whomever he wished, don't know why he needed my permission. I have talked to a newspaper writer in Great Falls, several years age, and a TV producer from one of those UFO shows. With both these individuals I denied any knowledge of any UFO's at Malmstrom. In addition, I stated that there was no, repeat no, incident at Oscar flight as Salas maintains. The man is either lying or delusional.

"My only contact with Hastings was a call I received from him regarding his book. I stated that his book sounded interesting and he later sent me a copy which I read and gave away .... At no time did I mention anyone's mental status; yours, mine, his, or Salas', although in retrospect I could comment on Salas'.

"My memory is quite good regarding the events at Malmstrom and there is no doubt in my mind that there were no reports of UFO's and no incident at Oscar flight. I will be willing to discuss this with anyone who is truly interested in the facts."

His deputy commander at Echo Flight, COL (Ret.) Walter Figel, Jr., has insisted as well that UFOs were not involved, and adds that his version of this event has been distorted by both Robert Salas and Robert Hastings in order to give the impression that an actual UFO was involved. He asserts very strongly that no UFOs were involved, nor were UFOs ever reported. Regarding the comments made in the past by Robert Hastings regarding Figel's impression of me or of the acts I have undertaken, COL Figel has never, throughout the years I've known him, accused me of lying, and has, in fact, been refreshingly open and definitive in regard to the events of March 1967, and has repeatedly confirmed all of the aspects of this story that I have published or otherwise made available and that my father, Eric D. Carlson, has repeatedly confirmed. No other assessment of my relationship with Figel or my father is necessary or has any bearing on the facts the three of us have publically addressed.

Walt Figel has released numerous comments regarding the incidents of March 1967, including the f

"RH: Okay. Now, when Bob, I think moments [after] he woke you up, or you got up and sat down at the commander’s console — he of course had received a call from the Flight Security Controller, saying that there was a bright red, oval-shaped object hovering over the security fence gate — my understanding is that is what he told you as soon as you were at your console, that he had received this call and, uh, that of course coincided with the missiles beginning to malfunction. Do you recall him telling you that?

"FM: I really don’t remember that portion of it, relative to the bright object. I remember an unusual condition [but] as far as the details, uh, I can’t elaborate on that."

The following exchange is also revealing:

"RH: Okay. He of course has also said that you two were, uh, when you were back at Malmstrom, you were debriefed by OSI and required to sign non-disclosure statements. Do you remember that?

"FM: I remember being directed to do that. But that was no problem. I’ve been one of these people, when told to forget something, I forget it—eventually [inaudible].

"RH: Right, well, is that a polite way of saying that you really don’t want to discuss this, even though you know more than you’re saying?

"FM: No, I’m saying I don’t remember."

For nearly ten years Salas was using Meiwald as confirmation of the events at both November Flight and Oscar Flight, stating that either my father or someone else called Meiwald on March 16 and told him all about Echo Flight. When interviewed by Hastings, Meiwald stated, "Whatever happened over at Echo, I have no idea." He has rebuffed completely the attempts by Hastings and Salas to establish confirmation for the UFOs they've invented, and yet both men continue to insist that he has confirmed every aspect of Salas' ridiculous UFO claims.

Meiwald has also clearly stated in other interviews with Salas that only 3-4 missiles failed during the one missile failures event he has recalled; he's NEVER stated outright that the UFO story he told Salas in 1996 had anything at all to do with missile failures; it's never even been mentioned in context. The plain fact is that Frederick Meiwald has NEVER associated the one instant of missile failures he recalls with a UFO. This association is a complete invention asserted by Robert Salas, one that Meiwald has never even hinted at.

My father, the commander of Echo Flight in March 1967, was present when all ten missiles were taken off of strategic alert by an electronic noise pulse generated internally at the launch control facility at Echo Flight. This pulse interfered with the normal operation of the logic coupler on the guidance and control module for that facility, causing thereby the failure of the missiles, which were, in effect, simply turned off. The incident was very well documented and was thoroughly investigated, and every word that Robert Salas and Robert Hastings have ever said on the subject has been repeatedly discounted or proven outright to be little more than lies and embellishments created for the purpose of making money from the sales of their books, the sales of associated videos, and the speaking fees they charge as a matter of course when retelling their ridiculous little folk tales.

I'm not asking you to believe these points I've outlined. It isn't necessary, as they're already included in the public record and can be examined by anyone who's interested in the subject. I do ask, however, that you give some further thought to the silly little claims you've discussed for your own benefit and for the protection of your reputation. You should be aware that there is another point of view in regard to these matters – one that has been repeatedly confirmed by those men who were actually involved with this singular event in USAF history, has been very well-documented through the years, and was very thoroughly investigated by the USAF for some months after the incident itself. It is due to this that any continued support for the claims these frauds have made will eventually be considered little more than the very poor judgment of a few very confused and ignorant men. It is entirely up to you whether you are to be included in that assessment. Your ignorance of such issues will have no bearing whatsoever on the eventual consideration of your own reputation; only your perceived support of these ill-considered claims will have any effect.

There were only two witnesses at Echo Flight in March 1967: the commander of the flight, CAPT Eric D. Carlson, and the deputy commander, COL Walter Figel, Jr. Both men have publically affirmed that there was no UFO. Robert Hastings is merely an agitator – a liar and a fraud who has repeatedly misrepresented the claims of the men involved in these incidents. He started utilizing this methodology years ago, found out it was convincing to a few ignorant people, and continues hi

The number of people who believe in alien existence and visitation may be even higher than the numbers you stated. I, as well as the majority of my family and friends, have all had encountered beings from other dimensions. I and my daughter had a vision of the skies covered with alien craft, here to protect the earth from destruction. It was a warning, and I firmly believe that they are in contact with our government, to work with them to show them the fatality of using harmful weapons. I hope that everyone who has been contacted, take this information seriously. As history has pointed out, other people have destroyed their civilization through war and weapons.

You may or may not agree with his approach but I can assure you that the ETs DEFINITELY DO EXIST. I HAVE SEEN ONE WITH MY OWN EYES. There IS a cover up. The aliens are real.

My dear ET friends, if you are reading this, restore my memory. I am ready now. Make contact again. You were right about the 16 years.

Sorry if that last bit was cryptic folks but it wasn't aimed at you lol.

ings is when the picture starts to make sense... I have strong convictions that we all have this magnificence, but the internal programming of deception is so deeply ingrained in our DNA that we even find ways to fool ourselves. plus when other people, all trying to believe the same thing, get together and find a whole bunch of little things/reasons that seem to add up, the fantasy starts to appear more real... like a lion, the laziness goes more than one generation. Wake up, get up, and do stuff ... I grant you permission to be human and create things to help the planet, & other organisms.

I have what my friends call E.Ts DADDY some say its a rock but whin they hold it and get to see all the features to do with something that was alive at one time they say wow it looks like it was alive and turned petrified .The thing is i'm not know body special in the field to prove too them that they need to take a better look at what I had found.I'ts not them so they just blow me off .But if they found it they be on T.V. saying they really found somethink We put a two videos of it on youtu {look up} {is this a skull of a grey}WE traced it/and also put a face back on it.Hope you all like it.

March 20th 2014 I found my etheric self on a craft with a human looking being. He severed my little and ring fingers on my left hand. Which I have an idea why. And put a beam of light through my right hand. No communication at all. Since then I have seen a bright light outside my back door window in the south east sky between, approximately, 3:00 to 6:30 am. This is not a star. This light is much bigger and brighter than I have seen before.

Well, that's the point Eric isn't it - that's what it all comes down to. We will never be able to acknowledge an alien intelligence is interacting with Humanity whilst the 'powers that be' i.e large corporations, oil barons, governments etc. pull all the strings. They don't want the man on the street to find out how easy it could really be to live, with free energy and all the other possible advantages (and disadvantages) being in a universal community would provide us, because of course, they could no longer control us. But then we could walk away from human control into a more powerful alien community's control. So maybe in a way the governments etc. are trying to protect us from a greater evil so to speak. Who knows what is out there! At the end of the day though, like you say, humanity has a long way to go with it's own problems before we could cope with anything outside our little sphere of life.

Allegedly written and leaked by a government officer involved with ultra-top¬-secret programs. It’s an encyclopedia of sort, regarding intelligent extraterrestrial species.
Could it be that our government works with living flesh and blood extraterrestrials? Or is this just a massive hoax?
Give it a read, believe it or not, you’ll definitely get chills.
http://www.blue-planet-project.com/

Just released: “The Reagan Briefing on Roswell” Now they can no longer deny the truth of Roswell! This amazing Transcript of classified tape recording made at Camp David, Maryland during a presidential briefing regarding the subject of UFOs and ALIEN VISITATION of EARTH!
http://www.blue-planet-project.com/Reagan-Roswell-UFO.html

I have found this online: http://humansovereignty.org/ I think it is worth spreading around!

It seems like everyone has their own ideas, preferences and beliefs regarding the potential nature of visitation and Contact. Having seen the way that researchers such as Dr David Jacobs and the late Dr Karla Turner are discounted ignored, or vilified for their unromantic approach to the subject of abduction phenomena, it is little wonder we are still "in the dark", so to speak. We are ignoring the little evidence we do have.

ETs are here. They have come here looking for something, because we certainly did not invite them to come. They are flying around, engaging in clandestine operations on our soil. They demonstrate overwhelming technological superiority, as well as incredible mental abilities. Through our media and through alternative sources we are being fed certain ideas about ETs. Can we put the pieces together for ourselves?

Speaking of inexplicable sources, I also came across a variety of "channeled" messages, allegedly from ETs. I do not know if these are genuine or not. Honestly, I do not know which would be more unsettling. Among the many, many conflicting messages flying around there is only one that makes any sense, more or less. If you are curious about these things, visit http://alliesofhumanity and see what I mean.

Seriously, the motivation of these aliens to keep the status quo can be of many. If you had a bunch of sheep to herd, because you depend on their flesh & furr & what not, you make sure the balance of the wolves and sheeps are such that they both survive under the disguise of "universal peace". The question is what do these "aliens" or possessed entities want to harvest from us humans? energy? soule? something more complex, we dont understand yet? Do you care if you step over an ant by accident or on purpose? Aliens can be of many sorts I imagine, I am sure there are hostile smart ones as well, since the whole universe works like that! it's a balance, neither can win!